{"id":9189,"date":"2018-04-18T10:54:31","date_gmt":"2018-04-18T13:54:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lifeinsyntropy.org\/?p=9189"},"modified":"2018-04-18T10:54:31","modified_gmt":"2018-04-18T13:54:31","slug":"maturana-gotsch-davila","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/en\/maturana-gotsch-davila\/","title":{"rendered":"Maturana + G\u00f6tsch + D\u00e1vila"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"min-height: 30px;\"><input id=\"9189\" style=\"float: left;max-width: 50px;\" src=\"https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/wp-advanced-pdf\/asset\/images\/pdf.png\" alt=\"#TB_inline?height=230&amp;width=400&amp;inlineId=examplePopup1\" title=\"Export pdf to your Email\" class=\"thickbox export-pdf\" type=\"image\" value=\"Export to PDF\" \/><\/div>\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"9189\" class=\"elementor elementor-9189 elementor-bc-flex-widget\" data-elementor-settings=\"[]\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-section-wrap\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-85191c0 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"85191c0\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-row\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-0d12423\" data-id=\"0d12423\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-9f1c660 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"9f1c660\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-text-editor elementor-clearfix\">\n\t\t\t\t<p>Imagine the outcomes of the dialogue between these contemporary thinkers\/doers who, each in their area, propose and demonstrate that <strong>new perspectives are possible and capable of transforming our perception of the man-nature relationship.<\/strong><\/p><p>Humberto Maturana and Ximena D\u00e1vila were curious about syntropic farming and invited us for a first conversation in S\u00e3o Paulo. Fernando Rebello and I took this incredible opportunity to get to know them closely and to hear about their impressions regarding the points of integration between their innovative theories and the worldview of the syntropic farming.<\/p><p>Soon later, a team from Matriztica came to the state of Goi\u00e1s (Brazil) and recorded an interview with Ernst G\u00f6tsch.<\/p><p>The result of this dialogue is what we want to share here with you.<\/p><p>Reflections about <strong>COOPERATION, PARADIGM SHIFT, AGRICULTURE<\/strong> and <strong>LIFE<\/strong> suggest that here is just the beginning of a fruitful conversation.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-81e09d6 elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"81e09d6\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a3a9577 elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"a3a9577\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-image\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figure class=\"wp-caption\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img width=\"764\" height=\"358\" src=\"https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life_in_syntropy_gotsch_davila-maturana.jpg\" class=\"attachment-large size-large\" alt=\"\" loading=\"lazy\" srcset=\"https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life_in_syntropy_gotsch_davila-maturana.jpg 764w, https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life_in_syntropy_gotsch_davila-maturana-370x173.jpg 370w, https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life_in_syntropy_gotsch_davila-maturana-270x127.jpg 270w, https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life_in_syntropy_gotsch_davila-maturana-570x267.jpg 570w, https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life_in_syntropy_gotsch_davila-maturana-740x347.jpg 740w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 764px) 100vw, 764px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figcaption class=\"widget-image-caption wp-caption-text\">Humberto Maturana, Ernst G\u00f6tsch and Ximena D\u00e1vila. (Source: Matr\u00edztica and Life in Syntropy)<\/figcaption>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/figure>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-b83bf0e elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"b83bf0e\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-row\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-43a2df7\" data-id=\"43a2df7\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1c38f25 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"1c38f25\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-text-editor elementor-clearfix\">\n\t\t\t\t<p style=\"text-align: center;\">Humberto Maturana is a renowned Chilean biologist and philosopher, known mainly for the theory of autopoiesis, and also for concepts such as structural determinism and structural coupling, cultural transformation, well-being, biology of cognition, language, culture and its interference with the environment. Ximena Davila developed a vision that integrates &#8220;biology of knowledge&#8221; and &#8220;biology of love&#8221; as the basis of what he called the &#8220;Biological Matrix of Human Existence&#8221;. In close collaboration with Maturana, they co-founded the Matriztica school in Santiago de Chile more than 20 years ago, which is defined as &#8220;a Human Laboratory focused in understanding human communities and organizations during their processes of cultural transformation and integration.&#8221;<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2998fa2 elementor-widget elementor-widget-testimonial\" data-id=\"2998fa2\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"testimonial.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-testimonial-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-testimonial-content\">\"The history of livings beings is not competition, but a transformation that is consistent with the conservation of life.\"<\/div>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-testimonial-meta elementor-has-image elementor-testimonial-image-position-aside\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-testimonial-meta-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-testimonial-image\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img width=\"239\" height=\"270\" src=\"https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life-in-syntropy-maturana-profile.jpg\" class=\"attachment-full size-full\" alt=\"\" loading=\"lazy\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-testimonial-details\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-testimonial-name\">Humberto Maturana<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-testimonial-job\">Biologist and Philosopher<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-8281916 elementor-widget elementor-widget-wp-widget-media_audio\" data-id=\"8281916\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"wp-widget-media_audio.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<h5>Humberto Maturana &#8211; Part 1<\/h5><!--[if lt IE 9]><script>document.createElement('audio');<\/script><![endif]-->\n<audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-9189-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/life-in-syntropy-maturana_audio_1.m4a?_=1\" \/><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/lifeinsyntropy.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/life-in-syntropy-maturana_audio_1.m4a?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/life-in-syntropy-maturana_audio_1.m4a\">https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/life-in-syntropy-maturana_audio_1.m4a<\/a><\/audio>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e2ca0c9 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"e2ca0c9\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-text-editor elementor-clearfix\">\n\t\t\t\t<p><strong>HUMBERTO MATURANA:\u00a0<\/strong>&#8220;Organisms drift and maintain themselves in the process of living, but do not compete, that is the central point. So if I look and know how they relate normally, suppose the forest, then I can reproduce elements of that coherence, so that they live harmoniously among them. Then I can put the plants that I want to participate in the same process. But I have to get out of the idea of competition, because it&#8217;s a denier. So the notion of natural drift is that the history of living beings is the history of conservation of adaptation, not of adapting to, because it occurs in the present in continuous change. So the competition has to do with a denial relationship of the other and the organisms do not do that, they slide between them, what I need to understand is how that harmony has settled down over the history of the biosphere and imitate it in action if I want to be a farmer. (&#8230;)\u00a0We have to consider that there isn&#8217;t a problem in competition there is a problem of coherence in the coexistence in which each body realizes its niche.\u00a0The history of living beings is not based in competition, but in the transformation coherent with the conservation of life. Conservation of adaptation instead of <em>adapting to.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d3432f4 elementor-widget elementor-widget-wp-widget-media_audio\" data-id=\"d3432f4\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"wp-widget-media_audio.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<h5>Humberto Maturana &#8211; Part 2<\/h5><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-9189-2\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life-in-syntropy-maturana-audio-2.mp3?_=2\" \/><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/lifeinsyntropy.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life-in-syntropy-maturana-audio-2.mp3?_=2\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life-in-syntropy-maturana-audio-2.mp3\">https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life-in-syntropy-maturana-audio-2.mp3<\/a><\/audio>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3dbefef elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"3dbefef\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-image\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figure class=\"wp-caption\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img width=\"550\" height=\"309\" src=\"https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life-in-syntropy-dayana-maturana.jpg\" class=\"attachment-full size-full\" alt=\"\" loading=\"lazy\" srcset=\"https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life-in-syntropy-dayana-maturana.jpg 550w, https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life-in-syntropy-dayana-maturana-370x208.jpg 370w, https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life-in-syntropy-dayana-maturana-270x152.jpg 270w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figcaption class=\"widget-image-caption wp-caption-text\">Denise, Ximena D\u00e1vila, Humberto Maturana, Dayana Andrade, Fernando Rebelo and Sebasti\u00e1n Gaggero<\/figcaption>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/figure>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d852c85 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"d852c85\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-text-editor elementor-clearfix\">\n\t\t\t\t<p><strong>XIMENA D\u00c1VILA:<\/strong> <span lang=\"PT-BR\">\u201c<\/span>That&#8217;s what we do in the human domain as well. Because Mr. Darwin &#8211; \u00a0and we have no antagonism with him &#8211; and natural selection created an epistemological substrate for competition. This was taken to all strata of life. Think about everything that is done in medicine, everything that is done in science in general that has to do with competition. But if you observe, like Ernst, how it arises, you see that you do not compete. I always give this rustic example. After knowing you it makes more sense to me when I say that a flower does not say &#8216;I&#8217;m more beautiful than you&#8217;. There is no competition, they blossom, they come, just like that.&#8221;<\/p><p style=\"text-align: center;\">&#8220;We have to teach <strong>HOW TO SEE<\/strong>\u00a0that. If you look at the world from the perspective of competition, it looks different from a world \u00a0that is <strong>SYSTEMICALLY IN COHERENCE<\/strong> with the ecological unity of the organism-niche.&#8221;<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-009f19f elementor-widget elementor-widget-wp-widget-media_audio\" data-id=\"009f19f\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"wp-widget-media_audio.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<h5>Ximena D\u00e1vila &#8211; Part 1<\/h5><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-9189-3\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life-in-syntropy-davila_audio_1.mp3?_=3\" \/><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/lifeinsyntropy.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life-in-syntropy-davila_audio_1.mp3?_=3\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life-in-syntropy-davila_audio_1.mp3\">https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life-in-syntropy-davila_audio_1.mp3<\/a><\/audio>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-c564da1 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"c564da1\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-text-editor elementor-clearfix\">\n\t\t\t\t<p><strong>XIMENA D\u00c1VILA:<\/strong> &#8220;Listening to what Humberto said and seeing what you do, we see that the problem is not in nature. The problem is in humans, it is in us. In Matriztica, which I co-founded with Humberto more than 20 years ago, what we do is regenerate souls so that people can connect with nature in a different way and also with each other. I see that the most difficult problem that Ernst has is not teaching, but rather how to preserve this way of living that is not only farming, is beyond that.&#8221;<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-54df644 elementor-widget elementor-widget-wp-widget-media_audio\" data-id=\"54df644\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"wp-widget-media_audio.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<h5>Ximena D\u00e1vila &#8211; Part 2<\/h5><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-9189-4\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life-in-syntropy-davila_audio_2.mp3?_=4\" \/><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/lifeinsyntropy.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life-in-syntropy-davila_audio_2.mp3?_=4\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life-in-syntropy-davila_audio_2.mp3\">https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life-in-syntropy-davila_audio_2.mp3<\/a><\/audio>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-bb0e0e2 elementor-widget elementor-widget-testimonial\" data-id=\"bb0e0e2\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"testimonial.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-testimonial-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-testimonial-content\">\"The problem is not with nature, the problem is with humans\"<\/div>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-testimonial-meta elementor-has-image elementor-testimonial-image-position-aside\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-testimonial-meta-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-testimonial-image\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img width=\"239\" height=\"270\" src=\"https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life-in-syntropy-davila-profile.jpg\" class=\"attachment-full size-full\" alt=\"\" loading=\"lazy\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-testimonial-details\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-testimonial-name\">Ximena D\u00e1vila<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-testimonial-job\">Matriztica Co-founder<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1c2d76c elementor-widget elementor-widget-testimonial\" data-id=\"1c2d76c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"testimonial.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-testimonial-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-testimonial-content\">\"Competition leads to scarcity, which leads to war that leads to death. Cooperation leads to abundance that leads to peace that leads to life\"<\/div>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-testimonial-meta elementor-has-image elementor-testimonial-image-position-aside\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-testimonial-meta-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-testimonial-image\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img width=\"239\" height=\"270\" src=\"https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life-in-syntropy-ernst-profile.jpg\" class=\"attachment-full size-full\" alt=\"\" loading=\"lazy\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-testimonial-details\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-testimonial-name\">Ernst G\u00f6tsch<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-testimonial-job\">Farmer<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-06f5e82 elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"06f5e82\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-image\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figure class=\"wp-caption\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img width=\"700\" height=\"480\" src=\"https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life-in-syntropy-matriztica-ernst.jpg\" class=\"attachment-large size-large\" alt=\"\" loading=\"lazy\" srcset=\"https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life-in-syntropy-matriztica-ernst.jpg 700w, https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life-in-syntropy-matriztica-ernst-370x254.jpg 370w, https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life-in-syntropy-matriztica-ernst-270x185.jpg 270w, https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life-in-syntropy-matriztica-ernst-570x391.jpg 570w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figcaption class=\"widget-image-caption wp-caption-text\">Francisco, Gabriela Bawarshi, Ernst G\u00f6tsch and Felipe Pasini<\/figcaption>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/figure>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-c5d188d elementor-widget elementor-widget-wp-widget-media_audio\" data-id=\"c5d188d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"wp-widget-media_audio.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<h5>Ernst G\u00f6sch<\/h5><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-9189-5\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life-in-syntropy-ernst_audio_1.mp3?_=5\" \/><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/lifeinsyntropy.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life-in-syntropy-ernst_audio_1.mp3?_=5\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life-in-syntropy-ernst_audio_1.mp3\">https:\/\/agendagotsch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/life-in-syntropy-ernst_audio_1.mp3<\/a><\/audio>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-85ecc8e elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"85ecc8e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-text-editor elementor-clearfix\">\n\t\t\t\t<p><strong>ERNST GOTSCH:\u00a0<\/strong>\u201cIn reality, we are part of an intelligent system and this intelligent system is a macro-organism. The macro-organism can only function conditioned that inter and intra-specific or inter and intracellular relationships are based on unconditional love and cooperation and not on cold competition. It does not work. Applying this principle (of competition), leads to the extinction of all life, leads to death, because all living beings refuse to be subjected to the principle of competition. It does not matter if it is human, plant or animal, they all refuse. And the act of refusing leads to scarcity. Scarcity leads to conflicts that lead to wars. The result of the war is collapse and the consequence is death. Whereas the subjected to the principles of unconditional love and cooperation tend to develop themselves, to produce &#8211; driven by inner pleasure. So this results in abundance, that is, abundance for all. Abundance, in turn, leads to peace. And peace brings life. There are two ways. One for death and one for life.\u201d<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f35ae7a elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"f35ae7a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-text-editor elementor-clearfix\">\n\t\t\t\t<p>We thank Sebasti\u00e1n, Gabriela and Francisco for helping us promote this and future dialogues.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-657eaa7 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"657eaa7\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-row\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-6a44623\" data-id=\"6a44623\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column-wrap\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Imagine the outcomes of the dialogue between these contemporary thinkers\/doers who, each in their area, propose and demonstrate that new perspectives are possible and capable of transforming our perception of the man-nature relationship. Humberto Maturana and Ximena D\u00e1vila were curious about syntropic farming and invited us for a first conversation in S\u00e3o Paulo. 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